so... bro flodin puts poison onto the first loaf of bread and says that this pictures someone "sinning against the holy spirit".
he then puts the bread into the trash can stating that jehovah completely discards anyone "sinning against the holy spirit"... meaning they cannot ever be forgiven...he says that the pharisees "sinned against the holy spirit" because they denied indisputable evidence of the operation of jehovah's holy spirit displayed by jesus... therefore jehovah would completely discard them... no way back for them.. fast forward a little... we have the bible character stephen...acts 6:8 says: now stephen, full of divine favor and power, was performing great wonders and signs among the people.so stephen was showing indisputable evidence of the operation of jehovah's holy spirit.now we come to the bible character paul (saul)... he was a pharisee.paul would have seen stephen in action... witnessing the indisputable evidence of the operation of jehovah's holy spirit first hand!yet paul not only waged war against all christians but he personally approved the killing (stoning) of stephen.according to the bread illustration paul should have been discarded by jehovah at this point for "sinning against the holy spirit"... he would have been put in the trash can... no way back at all...but what happened according to the bible?
jesus appeared to him on the road to damascus... he became one of the most zealous apostles in bible history with jehovah's full support!so what on earth is the bread illustration all about?
Who IS this guy? Undefiled bread? Who says that? Any he covers the first loaf and dips the other one in the corner, as indicated by the comments. How could anyone see this as otherwise (well, unless your a JW.) Even the last loaf, he put so much garlic on that poor undefiled loaf that it was most like inedible.
I love the JW.ORG. They look more like idiots with every broadcast.
yes friends it is too late for most of you to return to jehovah's org.
based on the new garlic bread parable in this month's broadcast with the illustration using loaves of bread.
it is obvious that the doors of the arc has been closed shut by jehovah's hand for some of us.. according to the new parable that can be found on jw tv.
was happily married many yrs unconditional love till wife went heaven yr n half ago.
3 mos ago sun morn.
when i once asked her if she been abused, cause seems like it, she didn't ans just hung her head.
with many more cases in the offing the zalkin lawfirm will press the issue again and again and force gerrit loesch to testify.
what say you?.
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.just plucking up the courage to introduce myself....living in ireland but from the uk originally.
..drifted away due to depression (from all things truth related lol and bereavements and my m.s husband cheating on me and leaving !!
) few years ago but they recently hunted me down (they contacted me the day my other half was diagnosed with cancer!
Lost and Adrift
Welcome here! I am sorry to hear about your struggles. What they did to you is in stark contrast to what Jackson testified to at the Royal Commission in Australia. He said UNDER OATH that if someone fades and leaves and doesn't identify themselves as a JW anymore, than disfellowshipping would not happen. I just watched it last week.
I don't know if you care to take the situation further, but if you do, I would write a letter and reference the video clip where he says that.
In the meantime, you're in good hands here. I have found a lot of friendship and support.
Take care!
i am still attending the kh, i actually recently became aware of the ttatt, what i believed came as a huge surprised for me, i wasn't raised as a jw and have been for about 15 years.
i have always been a very open minded individual all my life always seeing both sides of any situation with logic and common sense and so i believe discovering all of the doctrines i have been taught sense 16 years of age, wasn't extremely hard for me to realize in my heart it was a lie.
well it was me discovering the watchtower society being a ngo member of the un nations for 10 years, after that the snowball just got bigger for me.
please i want someone to teach me how i create websites.thanks!.
i'm a secondary school teacher and i've spent a lot of time at school this year since i've left jws simply observing student dynamics.
i do a lot of playground duty and have the opportunity to observe the kids at play and in the classroom.
i've especially had the opportunity to observe middle school kids, that is, kids between 12 and 15 in my state.. my observations of these 'worldly' children are:.
i joined this wonderful site, only a few weeks ago, although i have been away from the borg, for almost 20 years.
i didnt introduce myself, on a personal level, but i jumped right in, commenting, making threads, and just immersing myself in this community.
what a time, indeed, to be here, its almost as if i was "called" here, because the week i lurked, and joined, was when all this recent stuff came out.
so, the whole weekend i spent it dozing on and off.
this morning, before waking up, i had a dream.
i was passing by a building in france (i don't live in europe) and then i recognized a certain building as the one where one of my friends who lives in that country lives.
I actually had a dream the night before Princess Diana and Dodi died. I was living in the UK at the time. It was a Saturday night, into Sunday morning. I woke up early on Sunday and told me ex-husband at the time that I felt really heavy and sad...that I had a dream that a blonde haired woman and a dark haired man were dead..in a bathtub. It was a horrific scene.
My young son came into the room, so I went downstairs to make him breakfast. I turned the Cartoon Network on for him and a buzzing message came through to to turn to a news station. They had announced the death of Diana and Dodi. My ex-husband gave me that you're probably crazy look.
So I do believe that you can have dreams that turn out to be reality. I've had several since then, although none as huge as the Diana dream.
